Many of us have and many ( youngens) still do. We've had an array of martial at experts, boxers etc in our firm down the years. It wasn't just about the tear up, Moody. Many of us grew up, schooled. worked and lived amongst each other, had tight bonds and we all supported Wall, so already part of a group, Going to Wall was like joining the biggest and best group that also liked a tear up, you just fall into it if you're that way inclined. Young men want to belong to and be part of something, being in a firm covers those bases. My boy was bit handy with his fists at a young age, there was no way he was going down the same road as me so i put him into kick boxing classes. It taught him to be disciplined and how to defuse confrontations and to defend himself, it worked, he's not involved in FV.