As long as it's mashed with potato.
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70sCR
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This is starting to make me hungry. Off home for dinner.
Phlion54
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Manzes were the original pie/mash shop so every other is a copy so their pies are the proper traditional ones .Only if you don’t know what traditional pie mash is. I prefer my pie mash pies without gravy. Doesn’t go with the liquor and certainly doesn’t go with vinegar.
as for the original poster, he comes from west London ffs, what does he know about proper pie mash???
Andover_Lion
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Manze‘s is more suitable to be served on polystyrene trays by the youths in the kiosks.
Arments is too high a quality for that.
Arments is too high a quality for that.
70sCR
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One off the Wippa camp.Ralph the mouth
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Manze's and millwall In borough of lewisham,arments in Southwark
Seems right the club should look after one of their own!
Hand grenade dropped,and step back.
Seems right the club should look after one of their own!
Hand grenade dropped,and step back.
Wippa
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they used to be. I was raised on arments but used to go Manzes a lot. It Was good. Then they sold out to the tourist trade and started putting gravy in their pies. That’s when I stopped using them.
Arments are the only one I know who still do it a 100% in the traditional way… raw meat in the pies (not pre cooked like most places do it now including Manzes) a little bit of seasoning and a spray of water, the meat cooks in the pie. Then, when you cut it open, all that comes out is the juice from the meat, and it goes lovely with liquor and vinegar
you stick to your gravy laden Manzes crap though
Wippa
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70sCR
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That is interesting.they used to be. I was raised on arments but used to go Manzes a lot. It Was good. Then they sold out to the tourist trade and started putting gravy in their pies. That’s when I stopped using them.
Arments are the only one I know who still do it a 100% in the traditional way… raw meat in the pies (not pre cooked like most places do it now including Manzes) a little bit of seasoning and a spray of water, the meat cooks in the pie. Then, when you cut it open, all that comes out is the juice from the meat, and it goes lovely with liquor and vinegar
you stick to your gravy laden Manzes crap though
Phlion54
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You stick to the dry meat pie ,they used to be. I was raised on arments but used to go Manzes a lot. It Was good. Then they sold out to the tourist trade and started putting gravy in their pies. That’s when I stopped using them.
Arments are the only one I know who still do it a 100% in the traditional way… raw meat in the pies (not pre cooked like most places do it now including Manzes) a little bit of seasoning and a spray of water, the meat cooks in the pie. Then, when you cut it open, all that comes out is the juice from the meat, and it goes lovely with liquor and vinegar
you stick to your gravy laden Manzes crap though
Manzes have always as far as I can remember have had gravy in their pies so how is arments who are a much younger company make a "tradional pie" if the original had gravy in ? Their pies & liquor are sub standard compared to manzes but if people enjoy it so be itthey used to be. I was raised on arments but used to go Manzes a lot. It Was good. Then they sold out to the tourist trade and started putting gravy in their pies. That’s when I stopped using them.
Arments are the only one I know who still do it a 100% in the traditional way… raw meat in the pies (not pre cooked like most places do it now including Manzes) a little bit of seasoning and a spray of water, the meat cooks in the pie. Then, when you cut it open, all that comes out is the juice from the meat, and it goes lovely with liquor and vinegar
you stick to your gravy laden Manzes crap though
Ilderton Wanderer
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Gravy in the pies? Northerner turn out. It’s got to be Arments.
Wippa
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Much younger? Arments is over a hundred years old. I think Manzes is about 5 years older. Not much in it.
dry meat pie? Smothered in liquor and vinegar there’s nothing dry about my arments pies.
Getting hungry all this talk of pie mash
Wippa
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This was the last pie I had in Manzes TBR a couple of years ago. (Arments was shut). Not good. Tasted like cat food and repeated on me all day. 
Wippa
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My missus, who was raised on Manzes, pulled all the filling out and just ate the mash, pastry and liquor. She said the filling turned her stomach. And that’s someone who was born and bred a Manzes girl.View attachment 20378This was the last pie I had in Manzes TBR a couple of years ago. (Arments was shut). Not good. Tasted like cat food and repeated on me all day.
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Phlion54
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5 years of 5 days manzes pies are the benchmark and they are not dry ,arment s are like a Indian sweatshop , looks good but just inferior copiesMuch younger? Arments is over a hundred years old. I think Manzes is about 5 years older. Not much in it.
dry meat pie? Smothered in liquor and vinegar there’s nothing dry about my arments pies.
Getting hungry all this talk of pie mash
Wippa
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But arments pies aren’t dry, they spray them with water before putting the lids on and they have all the juice from the meat in them. And anyway, even if they was dry, they’re not once you smoother them with liquor and vinegar!
It’s all sweet though, you stick with your cat food pies, leaves more traditional pie mash for us purists.
70sCR
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Yeah allright.“For those that wish to enjoy our delicious pies without the inclusion of meat, a vegan version made with soya mince is also available.”Do they do a ‘vegan’ version? If not I’ll ask Greggs to create one!
Do they do a ‘vegan’ version? If not I’ll ask Greggs to create one!
M.Manze: Pie and Mash Delivery Service | Since 1902
M.Manze delivers the best pie, mash & eels throughout the UK. Build your unique pie & mash box with our online tool and order it to your door today.
www.manze.co.uk
“For those that wish to enjoy our delicious pies without the inclusion of meat, a vegan version made with soya mince is also available.”Do they do a ‘vegan’ version? If not I’ll ask Greggs to create one!
M.Manze: Pie and Mash Delivery Service | Since 1902
M.Manze delivers the best pie, mash & eels throughout the UK. Build your unique pie & mash box with our online tool and order it to your door today.
www.manze.co.uk
Eamon Dunphys tackle
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I was born in The Lying In as well.