Formation advantages?
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I wondered if anyone would get that one 
ackers87
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Evens JB'S son must of watched that the other day and thought " fuck me, we have been putting all this extra money in each year and we still look shit "
You can change the personnel as much as you fucking like, with the same couple of donuts at the end of it, nothing is going to progress!!
You can change the personnel as much as you fucking like, with the same couple of donuts at the end of it, nothing is going to progress!!
Think he's close that feeling wrath of the crowd if things don't change. A few more defeats on the spin and he'll be getting it properly. Everyone i spoke to on Saturday is fed up with what's on offer. Very frustrating cause i think he's brought in some very handy players but they've been shackled by his tactics.
ackers87
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I get that mate but if he ain't already learnt after 3 years then why is he suddenly gonna change now.
Another one who goes under the radar is Barrett, get rid of him aswell and bring some attacking minded coaches.
Some of his signings suggested we'd be more attack minded and that we play on the front foot and take it to teams. How stupid was i to think that. I know the new kid is young but he's more than capable from what i've seen. His age shouldn't be an issue cause he's clearly good enough.
He's nearly 50 first team starts under his belt and i think at his age he needs to be playing more which will help his development. Bringing him on with ten minutes to go when we need a goal probably puts as much pressure on him as it would if he was to start a game. If indeed that is why Rowett is using him sparingly.
Lion1964
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Taken a bit of time to digest and read some of the comments on yesterdayās poxy result. Itās all been said and I think on the whole most agree without even realising it.
I think thereās no doubt we did not do anything worthy of winning that game. City were marginally better and probably deserved to shade it through sheer endeavour.
GR definitely needs to change his mentality and throw caution to the wind at home more ( we have the players now, which I donāt think heās had before) otherwise he will lose the fans support which he is close to doing so already.
Personally I would not want see that just yet because I think heās earned the right to be given more than a couple of games into the season to get it right with the players he has bought in.
I will be at Norwich next week and hopefully we will see us compete as we did at boro or we will get royally fucked.
Starting the three central defenders at home is obviously not working , they are not mobile enough lacking pace and technical ability on the ball. They are defenders in the old fashioned sense of the word. He should be using them as so with Danny and Bryan as out and out full backs.Midfield is lacking creativity as usual, Fleming has been non existent for ages now and I think he should be given the chop if only for a reality check. Would like to see de noor and Saville in the middle of the park. Evans should be used more when a game opens up in the latter stages too, the lad has a football brain and can pick a pass .
Start the youngsters at home and attack for fuck sake, donāt have a problem with being a bit more cagey away from home.
Play Bradshaw alongside Rab and see if they can produce a partnership but they need service.
I think thereās no doubt we did not do anything worthy of winning that game. City were marginally better and probably deserved to shade it through sheer endeavour.
GR definitely needs to change his mentality and throw caution to the wind at home more ( we have the players now, which I donāt think heās had before) otherwise he will lose the fans support which he is close to doing so already.
Personally I would not want see that just yet because I think heās earned the right to be given more than a couple of games into the season to get it right with the players he has bought in.
I will be at Norwich next week and hopefully we will see us compete as we did at boro or we will get royally fucked.
Starting the three central defenders at home is obviously not working , they are not mobile enough lacking pace and technical ability on the ball. They are defenders in the old fashioned sense of the word. He should be using them as so with Danny and Bryan as out and out full backs.Midfield is lacking creativity as usual, Fleming has been non existent for ages now and I think he should be given the chop if only for a reality check. Would like to see de noor and Saville in the middle of the park. Evans should be used more when a game opens up in the latter stages too, the lad has a football brain and can pick a pass .
Start the youngsters at home and attack for fuck sake, donāt have a problem with being a bit more cagey away from home.
Play Bradshaw alongside Rab and see if they can produce a partnership but they need service.
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Life with the Lions
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This. 100%
I think a lot depends on our new chairman! If he has the patience his dad had then maybe he will give Rowett this season to see if the money spent on the new players brings us a play off place or, dare we say it, promotion!
Equally, if he doesnāt have that patience, and expects results that are not forthcoming in the coming months, Rowett may well be looking over his shoulder come Christmas time! Even then, Rowettās sacking would have to hinge on what managers are out of work at that time, or which ones had recently been sacked! I donāt want the likes of a Tony Pulis or a Chris Hughton managing us just because theyāre still out of work when Rowett goes, and thereās no one else available thatās better!
At the moment Iād be happy with a well deserved draw, if Iām honest!
Exactly! The one major thing that has pissed me off about Rowettās tenure as manager is his inability to look ahead at what is needed. In his almost four years in charge of us, he has spent loads on buying in or loaning in a number of midfield players that just havenāt cut the mustard in some way: Kiefenbeld, Woods, Bennett, Malone, Ojo, Freeman and Burke! Some of those players may have been signed because we desperately needed them during the season to cover for injuries etc., but the likes of the first four i mentioned were actual signings!
They all started off well, and had their moments, but in reality none of them (including those loan signings I mentioned), did enough to change our fortunes! Only the likes of Ballard, Cresswell, Styles and to some extent Shackleton were any good! We lost out on Ballard when we should have at least matched Sunderlandās bid for him, and for whatever reason, the club balked at paying the Ā£2M fee Barnsley wanted for Styles, yet Rowett has paid X amount of money on a Belgium player we all hope (though nothingās guaranteed), will be the next midfield creative maestro, even though we already knew what we was getting had we bought Styles!
Yep, Danny is never a wing back! Bryan can get forward and ping over a good cross, but maybe we need him and Danny to concentrate on defensive duties and either buy in, or loan in a pair of āproper old fashioned, skin pass em and get to the by lineā pair of left and right wingers who can consistently put over decent crosses into the box!
Yes! Maybe start Esse in the No. 10 role?
Evans could be tried out at CH (heās played there before), and like you say, might be able to play out from the back and pick out a forward moving midfielder with a decent pass to him!
100%. If Rowett doesnāt try to mix and match these forward partnerships, how will he know whoās the right choice to play together and build up a rapport with each other?
partisan_lion
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GR'S overly cautious approach added with AB makes for a dull watch at home, away I get it, but surely GR's needs someone attack minded to counter act GR's standard approach to the game, cheaper to replace AB than a manager I would have thought.
It's like he has a play book which he uses for all corners and free kicks, no invention to keep the oppo guessing, same subs, more often not at the same time every game, same formation with 5 at the back home...Again, he changed it last season after an abject start and got some progress and success, so why revert when you have bought in more attack minded players!?.
Lion 1964 said, use Evans more, he can play CB and is more accomplished on the ball than any of the three CB's who played Saturday or move him to the middle, more creativity than Sav and Billy to be honest.
It's like he has a play book which he uses for all corners and free kicks, no invention to keep the oppo guessing, same subs, more often not at the same time every game, same formation with 5 at the back home...Again, he changed it last season after an abject start and got some progress and success, so why revert when you have bought in more attack minded players!?.
Lion 1964 said, use Evans more, he can play CB and is more accomplished on the ball than any of the three CB's who played Saturday or move him to the middle, more creativity than Sav and Billy to be honest.
Saxon Lion
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iPads, I look back with fondness to the days when we all used to go out on a Saturday night, get ratarsed and turn up on a Sunday morning, play the first half, puke up at half time and then play the second half. Then we would go to the pub for a sunday lunchtime session. iPads and modern tactics, I shit on them. 
Lionsteele
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Haha youāre not wrong!iPads, I look back with fondness to the days when we all used to go out on a Saturday night, get ratarsed and turn up on a Sunday morning, play the first half, puke up at half time and then play the second half. Then we would go to the pub for a sunday lunchtime session. iPads and modern tactics, I shit on them.
Coventry won 3-0 the other day & their XG was 0.9ā¦ so means feck all
Life with the Lions
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I suppose iPads have their uses for a football manager like Rowett!
If heās looking at the stats on his screen, he canāt see the awful shit playing out there on the pitch!
If heās looking at the stats on his screen, he canāt see the awful shit playing out there on the pitch!
Lionsteele
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Someone tell him to look upI suppose iPads have their uses for a football manager like Rowett!
If heās looking at the stats on his screen, he canāt see the awful shit playing out there on the pitch!
Gaeilge Millwall
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What the F does āMy badā mean ?????Sorry, should have been more clearer. I know he brought on Bradshaw, but I was talking about Esse and Emakhu.
My bad.
Gaeilge Millwall
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Maybe, GR was just thinking āThis is a game that I donāt want to loseā ...... being the J B memorial game and for this game, that was his priority. And as said before, They just nicked a goal at the end. .......... so far I donāt see Billy Mitchell as an midfielder in a promotion chasing team, that goes for Danny also. This is now pretty much GRās team so hopefully time will tell.
He now knows what it takes to get a team to the playoffs, having skirted around themfor two years. I am still thinking āYazzā
He now knows what it takes to get a team to the playoffs, having skirted around themfor two years. I am still thinking āYazzā
