CaptainCharisma
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Teams have sussed we're no good with the ball, if you sit off and keep things tight teams know we dont have the cutting edge to break them down and get a goal.
A reliable source. Hof doesn't often get it wrong.Peckham, this stuff about the players not being comfortable with or happy with the formation or game plan, does this come from a reliable source from someone inside the club, telling that person on HOF, or is it just an unfounded rumour?
Have no idea other than what i said here that they're unhappy with the tactics.If it’s true, I wonder how many of the players feel this way, and exactly who they are? Has one or more of them confronted Rowett to his face about the fact that his formation or game plan isn’t working, or are some muttering quietly about it, but don’t say anything for fear of losing their place in the team?
AgreedSome of it is down to the players as well, though! You would have thought, after the Reading Cup game, collective professional pride would have kicked in, and senior players, the likes of Hutch and Cooper, would have got the team together on the following days training session and said something like, “Right! Last night‘s performance was shit and totally unacceptable, and the supporters didn’t deserve to see that! We need to make amends this Saturday and give them something positive to shout about!” Obviously that little pep talk didn’t happen, or if it did, the conversation went through many ears and straight out the other side!
Away and home opposition set up differently?Agreed. What I don’t understand is, if you find the right playing formula (as we did away to Boro), how hard is it to start the next game against City playing the same way? Start on the front foot, pass the ball about, press the opposition and let them worry about you - not the other way around!
Hopefully. If so Saturdays showing will be a one off and the world is a nice place again.I think the occasion last Saturday got to the players!
Agree.Danny is never a wing back! Not in a million years! He’s fantastic defending, and going forward he’s fine, but his crossing can be awful at times! Bryan is a lot better, and can ping a decent cross in, but really, if we were playing 4-4-2, we’d have proper wingers doing that job so much better, and we need wingers who can skin defenders and get to the by line and whip decent crosses into the box! Other teams have players who can do this, so why can’t we?
Or perhaps it's just that he likes to keep things tight for 45 minutes and then try and nick a win.And it’s strange, because many games last season we played so much better in the 2nd half, and supporters were thinking, “Well, Rowett’s put a rocket up their arses during the HT team talk! Whatever he said to them, it’s working!”
Mate, he's been criticised when we've won games. It won't stop until he's gone. Then it'll be all rosey for a while then however it is in the firing line will be taken apart and put back together again. It seems to be what fans do now. They have an idea how we should be playing and where in the league we should be and if we're not the knives are out.I think there will only be a Rowett bashing if he can’t motivate the team again, and the tactics and formation he uses brings about another poor performance
You're assuming they don't watch our next oppo. Considering it's a cup game he may not see half the team we'll be up against on Sunday. SO he won't be seeing what we're up against in a game that Norwich will probably have zero interest in.Might watch the QPR v Norwich game tonight - see what we’re up against on Sunday!
Gary Rowett, if you’re reading this, might be an idea for you to tune in as well!
He looks a real player. Would like to see him partnered with Savage. He can sit in front of the back four now he hasn't the legs for box to box and let Casper bomb on. Also think Saville has a huge and positive impact as a leader, something we looked devoid of on Saturday. There was no evidence that someone would get hold of the game and drive us on. We need that wise old head to lead from the front whilst keeping a cool head. Might be a bit biased cause i think he's a great player and has adapted well to his anchor role.I thought Casper was our best player against Bristol City,atleast he past the ball forward which is all we want
That’s not good then!A reliable source. Hof doesn't often get it wrong.
But that’s more about formation than tactics, surely? You can change formation but still expect your midfielders to be passing the ball forward, with one-two’s and driving it up to the forwards! No?Away and home opposition set up differently?
I don’t know why, because in that 1st half against Boro, had our players taken their chances, we could have been 3 or 4 nil up by half time!Or perhaps it's just that he likes to keep things tight for 45 minutes and then try and nick a win.
But supporters of all clubs cunt off the manager when he’s doing something wrong! I mean, we’re not as bad as the spotters! They were decrying that they had lost to lowly (in their eyes), Bristol Rovers last night, as if they had a God given right to just turn up at the Valium and claim 3 points because they are the mighty and glorious Charlton Athletic!Mate, he's been criticised when we've won games. It won't stop until he's gone. Then it'll be all rosey for a while then however it is in the firing line will be taken apart and put back together again. It seems to be what fans do now. They have an idea how we should be playing and where in the league we should be and if we're not the knives are out.
JB took us over back in 2007, and since then we’ve had decent giant killing Cup runs, trips to and promotion in league 1 Wembley play off finals, a seventh consecutive season in the Championship, money to spend on new players, breaking the £1M transfer fee several times and we almost cementing a play off position last season which might have seen us promoted! Pretty good times in the last 15 years! Unfortunately, with all of that success comes more and more expectation as supporters want us to kick on again!Our club and support base now isn't what we grew up with. You only have to read posts and match threads to see that. I honestly don't know why some people bother. The negativity and gloom is off the scale. This is a manager and team that were in the mix for a play off spot with one game to go. One bad result in the league and there's a meltdown.
I thought we gave it loud and proud at certain times, trying to rally the troops as it were, but it isn’t always easy to keep the noise levels high when you don’t see much excitement going on, on the pitch!Our fans on Saturday didn't get behind the team, quite the opposite where i was sitting. I know it's not easy to watch but verbally abusing the team and manager will only serve to benefit the oppo.
Too true!Have thought for a while that our away form is better than home cause the players aren't under as much pressure from jeering motormouths who think it's a good idea to boo and slag off the players for the slightest mistake or when the players aren't doing what said motormouth thinks they should be.
Best fans in the league my arsehole. Pure myth.
I was joking about Rowett watching tonight to get some pointers!You're assuming they don't watch our next oppo. Considering it's a cup game he may not see half the team we'll be up against on Sunday. SO he won't be seeing what we're up against in a game that Norwich will probably have zero interest in.
You should have have half an idea what we're up against. A team we just can't beat at there place but i doubt that'll be taken into consideration once the sheepskin mob get stuck in once the first thing they wanted done isn't. They are as boring and predictable as Saturdays team was.
Well use a bloody smiley then if it ain't funnyI was joking about Rowett watching tonight to get some pointers!
We always seem to up our game against the so called bigger sides (like Boro),
Personally I’d be happy with a well deserved point!
Made about 8 changes from what i can make out. I didn't know the former Burnley striker Ashley Barnes had signed for them. He's a very useful player.Might watch the QPR v Norwich game tonight - see what we’re up against on Sunday!
Well use a bloody smiley then if it ain't funny