Did anyone notice Danny Mac trying to explain to the defenders (mainly Tarango) how the defensive 5 system is supposed to work after we let the second goal in??? If he has to do that then surely we really should not be playing it. Its amazingly stupid to play a system the players are not suited too. We are in a battle now, just stick to a 442 and drop those who won’t help defend or put a shift in.
Who do you want to replace Edwards?
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T28ColdBlowLion
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Iceman13
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It's probably related to the fact that a lot of those players have been in the game for as long as JE and just think his ideas and methods are wrong and clearly aren't working, we see it on game day, they see it every fucking day. The guy has good intentions but he is out of his depth, has lost the dressing room and needs to go.
whittleseymfc
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Let him stay lurking there
I know what you're saying but this isn't pleasurable and personally watching tippy tappy bollocks like Swansea and Southampton played under Russell Martin bores the tits off me. Any manager worth his salt would have adapted for today knowing how Wednesday play, but he just continues with his methodology knowing full well that the defenders particularly will never be good enough to get away with possession football at this level. That's simply not good enough and isn't a way to successful management
A lot of our players will know that they will not be here next season under Edwards they are players who know that they cant survive in the Championship (which gets harder every season) or they are players coming towards the end of their career and most know they will be playing league one or worse, so why don't they take us down and stay in their comfort zone on good money ?????
Brusselslion
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Hutch until the end of the season. No managerial experience but he knows the players inside out. If he can't get a tune out of them, no one can.
norwichmark
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Agree with your opinion, would say in his defence that his way is the way it’s gonna be in the future, if he keeps here. Might be the way he’s coached all his career and thinks it folly changing it for aging players that might not be in his squad next season.
norwichmark
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Very good assessment/post mate
Edward Alistair
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If you really
To me those that think they were poor managers that just told players to kick the ball long don't know football.
If you think that Harris and Rowett just played hoofball then you ain't gonna win any argument with Edwards, jut because they didn't play pretty tip tap football doesn't mean they didn't know how to win games and manage players.
To me those that think they were poor managers that just told players to kick the ball long don't know football.
Barratt until the season closes.
Look at the results mate. They might give you a clue. He took the job in full knowledge of what he had to work with. He can't so needs to be fucked off. As for give him the tools------ how much are these tools gonna cost and how many does he want? 11? 6? We have one tool but unfortunately he's manager ( of sorts ) we simply can't afford the type of technically adept players that he can cope with. So we give him four-----then what? Still not enough. The experiment is over mate and he's failed abysmally. You think he's going to get tippy tappy cunts to sign for a league one side?
Edward Alistair
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Pretty much carried on in a similar way from Rowett for the few games he had and can't imagine we would be in a worse position than we are now if he had stayed manager.
Having said that, I do think we need a more experienced person to keep us up, seen Jackett mentioned but his days are gone , we need to realise that football has changed a lot in the last few years.
Someone who knows the Championship and has done well in it recently, Heckingbottom has the cv that I would be looking for but whoever it is , it has to work, this relegation would be the worse we have ever suffered in terms of the amount of work and money that has gone into getting us to where we are, 8 years without too much worry is a long time for us and we won't recover easily.
T28ColdBlowLion
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Rowett didn't walk out, your precious James Berylson sacked him
Andover_Lion
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So he says to Rowett you’re sacked but will you agree to accept less money in compensation by agreeing mutual terms.
The Den
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Spot on. After stating he watched us numerous times last season also.. he knew what he was taking on, and we have certainly turned into a rollover team who can't last more than 20 minutes. Huge gaps all over the pitch, the setup and instructions only come from one bloke. We literally played with 1 centre back today, even though we had 5 defenders. Cooper way too far left, Leonard way too far right, tanganga left defending on his own between the goal posts... my point is clearly highlighted with (i think) the 2nd goal, gap between Tanganga and Leonard was huge. Awful tactician.
Tomorrow mate.
Along with many others on here I am really frustrated with the way things are moving. I listened very carefully what Joe said in his post match interview and it really doesn’t make sense. If you are coaching in a particular way and that way is not working then you either have to adapt it or change it completely. He said that they will just have to go away next week and work hard to iron out the errors but, as I said above if you have tried and tried and it still isn’t working then you have to do something about it.
If you are a really good coach then you analyse what is not going right and you change it so that it goes better. Maybe the truth is that if you are working as a number two to somebody else and things don’t go right then you can hide a little behind the main man’s back. Or if you are working in the England set up with talented young players and you are only facing a game or two every few months then the urgency is different.
At this level you are never afforded that luxury. The games come thick and fast and you really do have to face the pressure every day of the week and then produce a result on a Saturday. If you can’t do that then it is time to step aside and let somebody else see if they can do a better job. At the minute it is simply not working and I am not sure whether working hard in training, sticking together and trying to stick to the plan will make any difference.
On the drive home with Zac and TT Zac said a mate of his who is also a ball boy said he overheard Joe say in the dugout ‘Why do they not listen to what we tell them in training’? Who knows?
If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it but if it is broke beyond repair then we need a change.
If you are a really good coach then you analyse what is not going right and you change it so that it goes better. Maybe the truth is that if you are working as a number two to somebody else and things don’t go right then you can hide a little behind the main man’s back. Or if you are working in the England set up with talented young players and you are only facing a game or two every few months then the urgency is different.
At this level you are never afforded that luxury. The games come thick and fast and you really do have to face the pressure every day of the week and then produce a result on a Saturday. If you can’t do that then it is time to step aside and let somebody else see if they can do a better job. At the minute it is simply not working and I am not sure whether working hard in training, sticking together and trying to stick to the plan will make any difference.
On the drive home with Zac and TT Zac said a mate of his who is also a ball boy said he overheard Joe say in the dugout ‘Why do they not listen to what we tell them in training’? Who knows?
If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it but if it is broke beyond repair then we need a change.
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