Flemming's forearm smash and VAR.

[Edward Alistair]

I can't stand VAR and I can see it stopping me going to football altogether in the future so our 2nd goal the other night had me thinking 'If it was 0-0 and that happened against us would I want VAR'?
My conclusion is that even if we had lost 2 points because of that decision I would still rather be without VAR, after a few days I would of put it out of my head and taken it as something that has always happened in football and we win some we lose some.
I'd rather they put time and effort into making ref's better and working out a better way to make onfield decisions, technology can be used for ball being out of play, making throw ins taken from the right place etc but not to the extent that you can't celebrate a goal or be offside by half inch.

 

[HappyLion]

I think VAR would have ruled our second goal out. I quite enjoyed their defender getting smashed though & staying down trying to draw the foul.

 

[Lionchel]

My conclusion is that even if we had lost 2 points because of that decision I would still rather be without VAR, after a few days I would of put it out of my head and taken it as something that has always happened in football and we win some we lose some.

I've always said this
Some you win, some you loose

Mind you had Flem did that in a pub he would have got nicked

 

[cold blow]

Cant see a lot wrong when fleming got the ball, he just put his arm across the players chest the player knew he had lost the ball and tried to con the ref by going down, probably why it was not given.

 

[MrRodcott]

Cant see a lot wrong when fleming got the ball, he just put his arm across the players chest the player knew he had lost the ball and tried to con the ref by going down, probably why it was not given.

I thought the same. He tried to con the ref and lost out. Possibly was a foul, but the theatrics got their own reward.

 

[Edward Alistair]

1min 45, I like your thinking but I think we do have to concede it was a foul.
Not a single Argyle player complains though.

 

[bomber79]

1min 45, I like your thinking but I think we do have to concede it was a foul.
Not a single Argyle player complains though.

I also thought it was telling that the guy on the ground was recovering until saville scored and then went down again.

foul or no foul, he was clearly play acting so tough.

 

[cold blow]

"Not a single Argyle player complains though."

Obviously the ref was not the only one to think it was no foul, their players would have surrounded the ref after we scored, the fact they did not is very telling.

 

[Lions21]

I've always said this
Some you win, some you loose

Mind you had Flem did that in a pub he would have got nicked

And carded in a game of Rugby

 

[partisan_lion]

Their player tried to be clever and got robbed by the stronger player who wanted it more.In real time to me it looked like a nailed on foul and the ref to blow up..Never mind, as the old cliche goes 'it evens itself out over the season'.

 

[STWall]

I can't stand VAR and I can see it stopping me going to football altogether in the future so our 2nd goal the other night had me thinking 'If it was 0-0 and that happened against us would I want VAR'?
My conclusion is that even if we had lost 2 points because of that decision I would still rather be without VAR, after a few days I would of put it out of my head and taken it as something that has always happened in football and we win some we lose some.
I'd rather they put time and effort into making ref's better and working out a better way to make onfield decisions, technology can be used for ball being out of play, making throw ins taken from the right place etc but not to the extent that you can't celebrate a goal or be offside by half inch.

The ref and lino’s also need to work together as a team like they do in rugby. How many times do we see the Lino look at the ref who can be miles away for direction on which way to award a throw in? They are subordinate to the big ego in the middle and the smaller in stature they get the bigger the ego! Eg Keith Stroud with his ‘Napoleon Complex’.
This article from 2020 is proof in the pudding with scientific evidence

 

[STWall]

The ref and lino’s also need to work together as a team like they do in rugby. How many times do we see the Lino look at the ref who can be miles away for direction on which way to award a throw in? They are subordinate to the big ego in the middle and the smaller in stature they get the bigger the ego! Eg Keith Stroud with his ‘Napoleon Complex’.
This article from 2020 is proof in the pudding with scientific evidence

Short football referees dish out more red and yellow cards, study shows

SHORT refs dish out more red and yellow cards, a study shows. Scientists analysed the data for 61 male referees in the Premier League, Championship, League One and League Two. They found refs less …

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[paddym]

Nothing wrong with it, good old fashioned English tackle

 

[Millwall Of Oz]

was good to see flemming chasing and making a few tackles later in that 2nd half - something he needs to do more. He often seems invisible when we dont have the ball

 

[Andover_Lion]

Excellent refereeing for our second goal…..it was about time we finally got a decent ref.

 

[returnofthetankme20]

it should be in thi set

 

[Ulster Lion]

I think VAR would have ruled our second goal out. I quite enjoyed their defender getting smashed though & staying down trying to draw the foul.

I think he was waiting to be counted out.

 

[STWall]

Gary Rowett gives verdict on Millwall’s second goal at Plymouth – should Zian Flemming have been penalised?

Gary Rowett has admitted that Zian Flemming’s robust challenge in the lead up to Millwall’s second goal at Plymouth could easily have been pulled up as a foul.

londonnewsonline.co.uk

 

[hardleyse16]

Not a single Argyle player complains though.

They probably think he’s a cunt too!