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When I saw him play he put a shift in and if there were no other issues then I think I'd e3ant to keep him but if there are disciplinary issues then he isn't worth the hassle

This fucking ref!!! Seriously

Why didn't Bryan put a challenge in, he just let's him go, poor from him but Gnotto shouldn't be on the pitch! Still trying to work out what cooper got booked for?

Why hasn't he made any substitutions? Almost as if he is happy with 0-0 but we should be winning these games, what doesn't he like in Casper? Arguably our best player to hold the ball and pass it forward

Have we even had an attempt in the second half?

I'm glad Edwards has gone and I loved Harris as a player but I don't think he is the right answer as manager. May get us a bounce for the rest of the season but he isn't the long term answer.

"ageing back line but we signed Harding, BNC and Tanganga, and weve got nothing up front so weve kept the 2 forwards who scored 30 goals between them last season and also brought in Nisbet who has scored loads in the SPFL (don't laugh, it's all we could afford)" Despite this, it definitely...

It's probably related to the fact that a lot of those players have been in the game for as long as JE and just think his ideas and methods are wrong and clearly aren't working, we see it on game day, they see it every fucking day. The guy has good intentions but he is out of his depth, has lost...

He was a 2 Bob journo for the SLP and somehow landed a job as a scout a few years ago, can't think of any worthwhile contribution he has made to us or Stoke (think he was there for a while)

Definitely not Morison!! A decent player for us but piss poor manager

I was never Rowetts buggest fan but he had this squad consistently in the top half of the table so the squad is good enough, JE is just not the right man for the job. Not sure who is available at the moment but we can't carry on with this.

"Any manager would struggle with these players" That line only stands up if we ignore the last 3 seasons when we finished top half

So your point is "the players fucked up promotion last year so we'll change the manager and the same players are the reason we are now in serious trouble of relegation, ignore the manager it is the players " Just clarifying your view because that is the way you are framing it.

Those players were 45 mins from the playoffs less than 12 months ago

The same players that had the same abilities under a different manager that were on the brink of the playoffs for 3 seasons, yeah sorry, you're right, definitely not the manager that has had an impact.................................

I missed the context, sorry. But still what the fuck do we do from here???

Who do you blame? Players commitment, players mindset, tactics, approach to a game. That's all on the coach/manager

1 game off the play offs last year.......

What's your plan? Stick with an out of depth manager who has no answers and can't even get the team to fully commit? It feels and looks like the squad are going through the motions because they know JE won't be around much longer. The way they are playing, the commitment, the professionalism...

We were never this shit at home under Rowett