Budgies' Boy
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We've been there and done that with Captain Morgan. Quite Natty, I always thought.Green and white halves
Might catch on.
Saudis taking over Millwall?
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It could simply done by paying a daft amount for shirt sponsorship. There's several ways around FFP using the sponsor route. You can't just plough money in and spend it on players so it would have to be via sponsorship.
The Berylsons could do that themselves and don't need some dodgepot money man to do it. They won't sell us down the swanny.
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Wippa
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I thought the sponsorship loopholes had been closed?
Brusselslion
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Jordan was their chairman when they went into administration, so they see him as taking them to the brink of extinction. It's just a shame that he couldn't see the job through.
I don't normally like to see clubs fold completely but I'd make an exception in Palace's case.
Not aware of that mate.
Phlion54
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We sell a lot of scarfs now to the tourists
Maybe. Hands off might be just are worrisome…….
Eamon Dunphys tackle
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Did you ask him Arments or Manzes, PL?
coldblower
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Heard he’s put an offer in for 45% of the club. Don’t know how true that is
Best of both worlds if true. JB still in control and a financial injection. Where did you hear that?
Edward Alistair
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How would we get a financial injection if that was to happen? Not saying we wouldn't I just don't know how that would work. Wouldn't the arab just be handing over money to our owners in return for shares? As we are pushing our FFP to it's limit there doesn't look like much room to spend anymore than we currently can.
The Saudi takes out sponsorship on something like the big screen advertising boxing or similar, he just pays very well for it and we would have to remove the gay boy advert
Edward Alistair
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He can only pay the going rate though, grossly overpaying for anything is some of the issues going on with man city at the moment.
I'm not saying his money can't help us, I'm just wondering how it can.
I don't see him investing without being in charge, the whole point of sportswashing is to control the narrative.
Kryan Bing
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I was thinking the same so typed the line below into an AI search.
(I used ChatGPT, but there is Google's Gemini as well, plus one or two others).
"What does an investor get when he buys shares in a professional football club."
Of course, below is not the definitive answer, but the more detailed in your question(s), the more detail(s) you will get back in the reply.
ChatGPT said:
When an investor buys shares in a professional football club, what they get depends on how the club is structured, the size of their investment, and the type of shares purchased. Here’s a breakdown of what investors typically receive:
1. Ownership Stake
- The investor becomes a part-owner of the club proportional to the number of shares they hold.
- This entitles them to a share of any profits, usually through dividends (though most football clubs reinvest profits or operate at a loss).
2. Voting Rights
- If the shares are ordinary voting shares, the investor may get voting power in shareholder meetings.
- This could include:
- Voting on major decisions (e.g., approving budgets, appointing directors).
- Influencing club direction and governance—though small investors have limited sway unless they hold a significant stake.
3. Potential Capital Gains
- If the club’s value increases, the share price may rise, and the investor could sell at a profit.
- This is more relevant in publicly traded clubs (e.g., Manchester United, Juventus) or in private equity exits.
4. Financial Risk
- Investing in football clubs is high-risk:
- Clubs often run at a loss.
- Revenue depends on uncertain factors like performance, attendance, sponsorships, and league status (promotion/relegation).
- Share value may drop or even become worthless.
5. Perks (Varies)
- Some clubs offer non-financial benefits to investors, especially small fans/shareholders:
- Invitations to AGMs.
- Early ticket access or discounts.
- Club merchandise or recognition.
6. Influence in Private Ownership Structures
- In privately held clubs, buying a large stake could mean real control:
- Input on strategic decisions, transfers, branding, etc.
- If an investor owns >50%, they control the club.
- At >25%, they can block certain special resolutions.
Things to Consider
- Transparency varies: private clubs disclose less than public ones.
- Liquidity: Selling shares in private clubs is harder than selling public shares.
- Regulatory compliance: Investors may need to meet “fit and proper person” tests in some leagues (like in the UK).
Would you like examples from real football club investments?
Busy AI mode off...
FLLion
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I think Millwall brothers that many of you are greatly underestimating, the financial wherewithal of the Berylsons. John‘s wife and James‘s mother is the daughter and one of the four children of Richard Smith. The Smiths wealth reaches into the billions, much more than one. They are from Chestnut Hill, and maybe that name strikes a familiar cord. They have the ability to put together a financial package at any time to complete the REGEN. The REGEN finances are not a question. It’s a matter of when and if they want to, not ability. Millwall seems to be a wonderful and treasured diversion for them, and may it long continue. They seem to be wonderful people.