Edward Alistair
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I wouldn't let Trump operate on you if I was you, rather keep waiting on the NHS.
N/W Why do NHS never stick to appointment times.
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Edward Alistair
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Woman have a right to be roofers as well.
As it should be, there is more forms of communication than ever and they cant be bothered to send a simple text to say the appointment is either running late or cancelled, if the NHS was not so top heavy with so called Management (what are they managing) they might be able to offer a decent service.
Durhamlion
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Sorry Wippa but don't buy that
The NHS gets 340 Thousand Million Pounds - Every single week!
It's the sheer waste & incompetence that drains the resources. We go abroad and if we need a hospital, rightly we are charged and claim it back on insurance.
I know bods both inside the NHS and foreigeners that have used the NHS and we can't even be arsed to charge them, it's too much hassle so we let them just walk out without any payment. Now this will only account for a few hundred million, but add this with purchasing waste, duplication of jobs, storage, Translators, compensation due to botched operations, DIE etc etc etc and it soon eats seriously into the budget.
If they can't work properly with £3.4 Billion per week then how much does it need?
onlyagame
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That’s a lot of sick people
EVOJM1972
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My wife is a nurse specialising in HIV/AIDS these days. They have 2 nurses due a bunk up to a higher band and her manager is having trouble getting funding for it, probably only a couple of grand a year, the the Trust keep telling there's no budget when at the same time the hospital is advertising for a fucking Diversity Manager at £70k pa to, presumably, tell blokes in dresses they can menstruate and advise them on breastfeeding!
I'm lucky enough to have BUPA healthcare through work.
Gaeilge Millwall
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I'm lucky enough to be seen in Ireland, how's this.................
Sorted myself out my local GP, and rang for an appointment,
"is tomorrow any good?"
"Brilliant" said i and arranged a time at the surgery.
Arrived five minutes early, no one in there, got seen on time with a 40 euro charge.
Went to pay at the reception and yer woman said "if you have your NI number then we will just charge direct to the UK."
How chuffed was i ??? but that was not the end.
Went to the chemist and the bill for my medication was (about) 80 euros.
"Do you have your NI number ?" said the girl behind the counter.
Now, i cant get that service in the country that i have paid my NI subscriptions to................As i said in my earlier post.
UK = Bad management
Sorted myself out my local GP, and rang for an appointment,
"is tomorrow any good?"
"Brilliant" said i and arranged a time at the surgery.
Arrived five minutes early, no one in there, got seen on time with a 40 euro charge.
Went to pay at the reception and yer woman said "if you have your NI number then we will just charge direct to the UK."
How chuffed was i ??? but that was not the end.
Went to the chemist and the bill for my medication was (about) 80 euros.
"Do you have your NI number ?" said the girl behind the counter.
Now, i cant get that service in the country that i have paid my NI subscriptions to................As i said in my earlier post.
UK = Bad management
Wippa
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That may all be true, but I still bet the NHS is in a better position in 4 years time than it is now.
All these accusations you make have been around for decades, but the old dears didn’t have to wait 18 months for a hip replacement 14 years ago. You could get doctors and dentist appointments 14 years ago, with ease.
Whether it’s been underfunded or badly run, or more than likely a combination of the two, it’s been a shit show and needs sorting out.
But while you are using the NHS shouldn't you expect an acceptable level of service and curtesy? After all don't lots of public services have posters up about respecting it's staff meanwhile it seems those same people can fail to meet your expectations.
But it isn't underfunded, it simply doesn't use the huge budget it is passed every day, week, month year in an efficient and effective way. The "underfunding" is laughable, it's just a black hole that successive governments over many, many years have funnelled money. Look at the IT system disaster..... look at the way which each local region buys it's services, there's no centralised buyer, each buys for itself and the drug companies know this and have fought against competion led negotiation.
It needs a major reconstruction, but it continues to use the same people at all levels to come up with new ideas, which they are incapable of.
Durhamlion
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It needs dismantling and starting again - serious reform, but it won't happen.
No one dare touch our "beloved" NHS. It isn't a great service, it ranks very low against the rest of the world. I know a woman from Belarus, and she can't believe that the health over there is so much better, cleaner, quicker than the NHS
I can't find it right now, but there was a report a couple of years ago that calculated that the government would be better off financially, if it just paid for everyone in the UK to have private healthcare insurance and bin off the NHS!
I'd rather be offered a discount on tax / NI and use that to go private
Also, since 2010, we have 7 million more people to treat, and growing by 1 million a year.
To be fair the whole country needs to be dismantled and started again.
Brexit was a shit show, many people thought they would regain control of our borders. But it looks like we just made it harder for white european's to come here and alot easier for aficans and arabs instead. Immigration sky rocketed after brexit.
TMFC
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Do what? How about the rest Europe who remained in the EU, it’s been easier for ‘Africans and Arabs’ to go there. Your talking bollocks fella, it’s the bleeding heart liberals who fucking want this.
If you do some research the UK has accepted more immigrants from Africa and Asia then any other EU country since brexit. It was Boris Johnson who opened the flood gates to artifically boost GDP, not bleeding heart Liberals. Unless you classify the Boris and the Tories as bleeding hear liberals.
Wippa
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Interesting article here from the BMJ which contains all the figures to show that the tories have indeed underfunded the NHS. There may have been raises in the budget, but well below that of inflation.
also, contains interesting stats on how the satisfaction levels with the NHS had rocketed between 1997 and 2010, and have since plummeted again to what we have now, which is record lows of satisfaction…
www.bmj.com
also, contains interesting stats on how the satisfaction levels with the NHS had rocketed between 1997 and 2010, and have since plummeted again to what we have now, which is record lows of satisfaction…
Conservative Party’s legacy on the NHS
Political failure has left the health system in crisis and caused avoidable harm The NHS is under new management. The Labour Party’s election win on 4 July 2024 marks the end of 14 years of Conservative led governments presiding over the English NHS—from David Cameron’s coalition with the...
Wippa
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This is actually a misconception. The NHS actually have less ‘middle management’ than other businesses of a similar size…
Fact or Fiction? The NHS has too many managers
It’s election season, and NHS managers and 'bureaucracy' are once again in the firing line. The Coalition boast of putting “more money on to the front line and less into management”; Labour and its supportive press accuse them of the opposite. So who's right?
www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk
Very misleading article they fail to state how many self employed (so called consultants) there are ie outsiders paid vast amounts of taxpayers money to carry out the same duties as employed Managers.This is actually a misconception. The NHS actually have less ‘middle management’ than other businesses of a similar size…
Fact or Fiction? The NHS has too many managers
It’s election season, and NHS managers and 'bureaucracy' are once again in the firing line. The Coalition boast of putting “more money on to the front line and less into management”; Labour and its supportive press accuse them of the opposite. So who's right?
Just give us the numbers for people PAID to manage the NHS whether employed by them or not.
E18 wall
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My wife was a payroll consultant and was contracted by various NHS trusts to sort problems out with their systems. Massive overpayments to people who aren't giving back and the trusts don't sack people who make the mistakes they move them to another role, One consultant was over paid by over a million pounds his bank reported straight away.
HappyLion
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Your Millwall. No one liikes you then. Hope you got sorted ok.
