Josh Stephenson looks set to join Brentford.

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mickynomates

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Pity. Was not that long ago when Brentford were a smaller club than us. Good luck to Josh and hopefully we get some compensation out of the deal.
 
At times like these you really cannot stand in the lad’s way. When the Premier League come calling you have to put his best interests at heart. The lad is good and could be destined for greater things but you are always taking a bit of a risk. We have had many who have aspired to greater things and have gone off to seek their fortune elsewhere. David Amoo comes to mind. And there have been others who are Bertie Big Boots and a have gone off to a ‘bigger’ club only to find that the grass is not greener elsewhere. Conor Wilkinson comes to mind. I am sure there are others.
I had an interesting conversation with Fitz at the club dinner two or three years ago about promising players at the Academy. He said there were always other clubs sniffing around our youngsters and there were times in the past where we got our fingers burned and did not insist on a sell on fee. He was quick to point out that that policy had changed and we now always insist on a hefty percentage in the contract which guarantees that we do not miss out if our player is sold on. Seems entirely sensible!
 
A move to a premier side isn't necessarily in the best interests for the player because they are much less likely to breakthrough into the first team. They literally stop developing because they don't play any football. I could list countless names that moved from smaller clubs to premier clubs cause they should potential only to be never heard of again.
 
Peckham Lion said:
A move to a premier side isn't necessarily in the best interests for the player because they are much less likely to breakthrough into the first team. They literally stop developing because they don't play any football. I could list countless names that moved from smaller clubs to premier clubs cause they should potential only to be never heard of again.
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It’s all about the money, honey.
 
Zac was injured in October and after returning from this setback he has not featured in the first team squad at Rangers. His contract expires this year and could be on his way.
 
These things go both ways, when we singed Tyler Burey and Aidemo Emakhu we poached them from smaller clubs for them to play in our reserves for a bit. Didn’t work out for Burey, and I’m sure a few AFC Wimbledon fans are now saying ‘why did he go to Millwall?’
 
Peckham Lion said:
A move to a premier side isn't necessarily in the best interests for the player because they are much less likely to breakthrough into the first team. They literally stop developing because they don't play any football. I could list countless names that moved from smaller clubs to premier clubs cause they should potential only to be never heard of again.
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Mate, I wonder if there should be controls put in place to stop so called bigger clubs poaching youngsters? The investment in them doesn’t stop at football and includes key elements like education. These controls need to obviously benefit a number of stakeholders including the player and the parent club. Just a thought P.
 
Jack_MFC said:
These things go both ways, when we singed Tyler Burey and Aidemo Emakhu we poached them from smaller clubs for them to play in our reserves for a bit.
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Burey and Emakhu had both signed professional contracts with the clubs we got them from. They weren't academy or youth team players.
 
STWall said:
Mate, I wonder if there should be controls put in place to stop so called bigger clubs poaching youngsters?
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There probably are some controls/ rules but quite often there is always a way around them. Because no transfer fee is allowed the player misses out on a potential signing on fee. It's quite common for the pursuing club to buy the players parents/ family a house instead. I know for a fact the Zak Lovelaces family got well looked after when he left us for Rangers.

There's other factors that may make your suggestion difficult to impose. One is whether employment law means you can't restrict freedom of movement. The other is that quite often it's the players parents rather than an interested ' bigger ' club that want to force the issue and move the son on to a bigger club.
 
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Jack_MFC said:
These things go both ways, when we singed Tyler Burey and Aidemo Emakhu we poached them from smaller clubs for them to play in our reserves for a bit. Didn’t work out for Burey, and I’m sure a few AFC Wimbledon fans are now saying ‘why did he go to Millwall?’
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Spot on, there is a food chain in football and sadly we're not at the top of it. a shame to lose a promising player but we've got to be realistic, if the player won't sign a new deal the club HAS to do all it can to get a good fee for them.
 
Peckham Lion said:
There probably are some controls/ rules but quite often there is always a way around them. Because no transfer fee is allowed the player misses out on a potential signing on fee. It's quite common for the pursuing club to buy the players parents/ family a house instead. I know for a fact the Zak Lovelaces family got well looked after when he left us for Rangers.

There's other factors that may make your suggestion difficult to impose. One is whether employment law means you can't restrict freedom of movement. The other is that quite often it's the players parents rather than an interested ' bigger ' club that want to force the issue and move the son on to a bigger club.
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Thanks for your insights mate and seem sound to me. 👍
 
Realistically if you were the kids family, Brentford is a fantastic proposition. They are known for their ability to gets kids into their and other first teams, it’s still in London and they’re in the premier league
 
JF_Lion said:
Realistically if you were the kids family, Brentford is a fantastic proposition. They are known for their ability to gets kids into their and other first teams, it’s still in London and they’re in the premier league
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Is this true? Not that I’m a Brentford expert but, I can’t think of any player who’s come through their youth setup to the 1st team then go onto bigger things🤔

Now, as much as it hurts me to say this, if it were palace I could understand but Brentford, I think he’d be better off staying with us 🤷‍♂️
 
JF_Lion said:
Realistically if you were the kids family, Brentford is a fantastic proposition. They are known for their ability to gets kids into their and other first teams,
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They're known for finding potential talent and cast offs from overseas and the lower leagues then selling them on if they're a success. So the chances are that a kid will be surpassed by a cheap acquisition from abroad.
 
No official announcement anywhere, was going to be decided by tribunal with regard to fee so maybe holding things up?
 
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