Honeyman - The key!

[Poplar Lion]

I appreciate many may disagree with me on this but I think Honeyman playing in the 10 is actually the key to the upturn in the number of goals scored. Yes, he's missed a couple of good chances himself but hear me out.

He is such an important part of the high press. His endless energy just creates pressure on the opposition. He loves a battle and must just be the most annoying player to play against, just constantly snapping away at the oppo.

Mainly, what it's doing is the following. Teams used to often run through the middle of us and only get stopped once they get to our 18 yard box. We win the ball back but then have to carry it 70 yards before we get anywhere near the oppo's box.
What's happening now is that because he so good at pressing up high, the whole team is already further up the pitch. He's causing turnover after turnover in the oppo's half. This means that Saville & De Norre are already higher up the pitch and able to give more support to Watmore & Esse and why we're seeing them more involved further forward. It gives the wide men more options rather than having to keep cutting back and going backward and we end up with more players around the box when it does go in.

I reckon we'll look back at Honeyman in years to come the same way we do with players like Jimmy Abdou, not the most gifted ball players but doing all the hard graft that often goes unnoticed. I think Harris said that in the Hull game they looked at the stats and Honeyman broke the record for most yards run at speed in a game for Millwall. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

That's my take anyway.

 

[King of The Jungle]

I appreciate many may disagree with me on this but I think Honeyman playing in the 10 is actually the key to the upturn in the number of goals scored. Yes, he's missed a couple of good chances himself but hear me out.

He is such an important part of the high press. His endless energy just creates pressure on the opposition. He loves a battle and must just be the most annoying player to play against, just constantly snapping away at the oppo.

Mainly, what it's doing is the following. Teams used to often run through the middle of us and only get stopped once they get to our 18 yard box. We win the ball back but then have to carry it 70 yards before we get anywhere near the oppo's box.
What's happening now is that because he so good at pressing up high, the whole team is already further up the pitch. He's causing turnover after turnover in the oppo's half. This means that Saville & De Norre are already higher up the pitch and able to give more support to Watmore & Esse and why we're seeing them more involved further forward. It gives the wide men more options rather than having to keep cutting back and going backward and we end up with more players around the box when it does go in.

I reckon we'll look back at Honeyman in years to come the same way we do with players like Jimmy Abdou, not the most gifted ball players but doing all the hard graft that often goes unnoticed. I think Harris said that in the Hull game they looked at the stats and Honeyman broke the record for most yards run at speed in a game for Millwall. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

That's my take anyway.

I think you're right about all that. Excellent post.

 

[bazzwall]

Have to agree, one of the first names on the team sheet for me .

 

[partisan_lion]

When we signed him a Sunderland supporting mate said he is underappreciated and you notice this when he is not in the team.
Always gives 100%

 

[Edward Alistair]

The downside of Honeyman is that he isn't a creative no 10, if we keep the same formation then I can see a few others being played there when we are losing, Esse might be able to do it, Langstaff might be a possibilty as well.

 

[Poplar Lion]

The downside of Honeyman is that he isn't a creative no 10, if we keep the same formation then I can see a few others being played there when we are losing, Esse might be able to do it, Langstaff might be a possibilty as well.

But he doesn't need to be because what he's doing is enabling De Norre and Saville plus the wingers to be more creative.

 

[Edward Alistair]

But he doesn't need to be because what he's doing is enabling De Norre and Saville plus the wingers to be more creative.

30 minutes to go and we are 1-0 down, I think there are situations where we need someone like Flemming that will get us a goal or an assst.
Also he won't play 46 games so we will have to find another to play there.

 

[BigPaul]

I appreciate many may disagree with me on this but I think Honeyman playing in the 10 is actually the key to the upturn in the number of goals scored. Yes, he's missed a couple of good chances himself but hear me out.

He is such an important part of the high press. His endless energy just creates pressure on the opposition. He loves a battle and must just be the most annoying player to play against, just constantly snapping away at the oppo.

Mainly, what it's doing is the following. Teams used to often run through the middle of us and only get stopped once they get to our 18 yard box. We win the ball back but then have to carry it 70 yards before we get anywhere near the oppo's box.
What's happening now is that because he so good at pressing up high, the whole team is already further up the pitch. He's causing turnover after turnover in the oppo's half. This means that Saville & De Norre are already higher up the pitch and able to give more support to Watmore & Esse and why we're seeing them more involved further forward. It gives the wide men more options rather than having to keep cutting back and going backward and we end up with more players around the box when it does go in.

I reckon we'll look back at Honeyman in years to come the same way we do with players like Jimmy Abdou, not the most gifted ball players but doing all the hard graft that often goes unnoticed. I think Harris said that in the Hull game they looked at the stats and Honeyman broke the record for most yards run at speed in a game for Millwall. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

That's my take anyway.

You talk a lot of sense, Poplar.
Wtf are you doing here?

 

[HappyLion]

Honeyman was bought in because he is a play maker. The more runners we have the better he will play.

Honeyman & Watmore are my current favourites. Watmore is direct and always looks to take the ball forward. Now he is getting more game time he is showing his worth.

 

[HappyLion]

The downside of Honeyman is that he isn't a creative no 10, if we keep the same formation then I can see a few others being played there when we are losing, Esse might be able to do it, Langstaff might be a possibilty as well.

He actually is the most creative player we have. Now we have some runners up front you will see how good he links the play.

 

[brockleyhuts]

Honeyman was bought in because he is a play maker. The more runners we have the better he will play.

Honeyman & Watmore are my current favourites. Watmore is direct and always looks to take the ball forward. Now he is getting more game time he is showing his worth.

Watmore is class, amazed his previous club let him go, similarly Honeyman both give it all for the team, look at that cross field run watmore made to tackle on Saturday as an example

 

[robbo555]

I really like him as a player and he seems to be a really good person to have in the dressing room. I have reservations with him playing as a 10, I think Esse would be better there with the freedom to roam, but Honeyman is Harris' choice and he knows better than me. I think Honeyman is crucial at times disrupting the opposition when they have a deep-lying playmaker, which is something teams often have these days. Bannan had zero influence on Saturday and that was down to Honeyman being a pain in the arse to him.

 

[King of The Jungle]

There is something old fashioned and no-nonsense about both Honeyman and Watmore; I find them both apparently without ego, hard working, honest, give-everything for the cause types. Qualities that are quite rare in the game nowadays and crucially exactly the type of qualities that we, as the unique club that Millwall is, require.

 

[BLF]

I appreciate many may disagree with me on this but I think Honeyman playing in the 10 is actually the key to the upturn in the number of goals scored. Yes, he's missed a couple of good chances himself but hear me out.

He is such an important part of the high press. His endless energy just creates pressure on the opposition. He loves a battle and must just be the most annoying player to play against, just constantly snapping away at the oppo.

Mainly, what it's doing is the following. Teams used to often run through the middle of us and only get stopped once they get to our 18 yard box. We win the ball back but then have to carry it 70 yards before we get anywhere near the oppo's box.
What's happening now is that because he so good at pressing up high, the whole team is already further up the pitch. He's causing turnover after turnover in the oppo's half. This means that Saville & De Norre are already higher up the pitch and able to give more support to Watmore & Esse and why we're seeing them more involved further forward. It gives the wide men more options rather than having to keep cutting back and going backward and we end up with more players around the box when it does go in.

I reckon we'll look back at Honeyman in years to come the same way we do with players like Jimmy Abdou, not the most gifted ball players but doing all the hard graft that often goes unnoticed. I think Harris said that in the Hull game they looked at the stats and Honeyman broke the record for most yards run at speed in a game for Millwall. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

That's my take anyway.

Great post - He’s a proper Millwall type player.

 

[Bermondseyinexile]

I appreciate many may disagree with me on this but I think Honeyman playing in the 10 is actually the key to the upturn in the number of goals scored. Yes, he's missed a couple of good chances himself but hear me out.

He is such an important part of the high press. His endless energy just creates pressure on the opposition. He loves a battle and must just be the most annoying player to play against, just constantly snapping away at the oppo.

Mainly, what it's doing is the following. Teams used to often run through the middle of us and only get stopped once they get to our 18 yard box. We win the ball back but then have to carry it 70 yards before we get anywhere near the oppo's box.
What's happening now is that because he so good at pressing up high, the whole team is already further up the pitch. He's causing turnover after turnover in the oppo's half. This means that Saville & De Norre are already higher up the pitch and able to give more support to Watmore & Esse and why we're seeing them more involved further forward. It gives the wide men more options rather than having to keep cutting back and going backward and we end up with more players around the box when it does go in.

I reckon we'll look back at Honeyman in years to come the same way we do with players like Jimmy Abdou, not the most gifted ball players but doing all the hard graft that often goes unnoticed. I think Harris said that in the Hull game they looked at the stats and Honeyman broke the record for most yards run at speed in a game for Millwall. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

That's my take anyway.

Always thought he was a great acquisition, can be played almost anywhere on the pitch..
Leads from the front and loves to get stuck in...

 

[Eastsussexlion]

Your spot on , a good player not frightened to get stuck in , saw an interview with him after Saturdays game , obviously loves it here as well

 

[boris the spider]

I like Honeyman, think he is under rated. Fail to understand why so many Millwall fans I speak to really dont rate him.

 

[King of The Jungle]

Always thought he was a great acquisition, can be played almost anywhere on the pitch..
Leads from the front and loves to get stuck in...

I first noticed Honeyman when he was playing for Sunderland during the time they were filming that Amazon documentary. I remember thinking at the time how I'd like him to play for us, but assumed he would probably go on to play for more successful clubs than us.

 

[cold blow]

The difference on Saturday was Coburn, instead of being part of the defence our midfield were able to push up and show us they could play football with ball to feet and the only reason they were able to do that was due to Coburn keeping their defence busy and not allowing them to push up and join their attack hence leaving the gap in midfield between their attack and defence allowing our midfielders the space needed.

 

[King of The Jungle]

I like Honeyman, think he is under rated. Fail to understand why so many Millwall fans I speak to really dont rate him.

I think they're is a gradual change in what people expect and appreciate at our club.
For instance, for me, seeing one of our defenders absolutely clatter an opponent hard (and getting away with it free kick wise - no easy task these days) gives me as much enjoyment as a slick attacking move down the wing. Also I appreciate blood, guts and effort in a player as much, if not more, than outright silky-skills.
But I think people like me who appreciate those things are becoming a little fewer, and many people now expect to see skill and flair and find it hard to appreciate the more basic foundations of the game.
I dunno if it's a change in people's attitudes or just newer supporters getting involved.
Similar with the JE reign; some seemed to think it was a great move forward looking to play a different style of football, whereas I didn't enjoy it at all.
Not saying anyone is right or wrong, it's horses for courses I suppose.